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[siannan]

So since everyone is bawling with reverence over Michael Jackson now that he's dead, does this mean that when O.J. kicks the bucket that everyone will forget that he butchered two people? Will ESPN run retrospectives of his Hertz commercials and reruns of First and Ten?

Comments

[caitlin.livejournal.com]

Do you have definite proof of his molesting children? Were you there when he did it if you do?


As for OJ... at least Mr. Jackson was not repeatedly doing criminal acts and stuff. I sincerely doubt Mr. Simpson will be so kindly remembered.

[auntiesiannan.livejournal.com]

Do we have definite proof that OJ killed Ron and Nicole? Judge Ito says no.

[caitlin.livejournal.com]

Was not just talking about that.

Was talking about the messy criminal thing he was recently convicted for.

There WAS proof on that.

[caitlin.livejournal.com]

Also?

It was a jury trial.

Was not Judge Ito that said no. It was a jury that said so.

God, I hated that period of time, considering I was living in LA then.

[auntiesiannan.livejournal.com]

Jackson admitted to sharing beds with strange children.

How is that appropriate?

[auntiesiannan.livejournal.com]

I wasn't going to name all of the jurors, considering the only one I remembered was nicknamed "Hot Socks" and had the screaming-down-the-hall freakout.

My statement stands.

[caitlin.livejournal.com]

I'm not saying it IS appropriate, but sharing a bed does not equal molestation. And even then it's on the parents of those kids, isn't it? Last I heard, they were there with the kids he is accused of molesting.

I'm pondering whether he's actually somewhat emotionally retarded...

[caitlin.livejournal.com]

Don't murder trials need "beyond a doubt" things?

His lawyers were just better than the LA County DA team. That has ALWAYS been my opinion.

[nullcherri.livejournal.com]

MJ is just more relevant to culture than OJ is. I think that absolves him in the media's eye.

[auntiesiannan.livejournal.com]

A middle aged man should not be sharing Hot Wheels sheets with a child, even if they were pimped out by their parents (which it seems they were). Is a john any less culpable than a pimp? We're not talking about entrapment here. It's about what is and is not appropriate behavior between adults and children. That includes not dangling infants out of windows.

I won't even get into MJ's financial debacles, which were numerous to the point of HALF A BILLION DOLLARS OF DEBT.

[auntiesiannan.livejournal.com]

Regardless of whether or not Simpson could squeeze his latex-covered hands into a pair of blood-stiffened, shrunken gloves, you can't tell me or the majority of rational humans on this earth that he didn't slaughter two people.

[auntiesiannan.livejournal.com]

Not in my eyes.

[agateway.livejournal.com]

i just want naked gun movies to run when OJ dies - all 3. that would be fitting for his death.

[auntiesiannan.livejournal.com]

[caitlin.livejournal.com]

And does the comparison to Michael Jackson even compare?

As I recall, MJ was never even accused of killing anyone.

OJ, though... murder, kidnapping, extortion, conspiracy...

Going back to the original point, this is why I don't think OJ will be remembered quite as fondly.

[caitlin.livejournal.com]

Just FYI: I am not bawling over MJ dying. I find it tragic and sad... and from what I understand, that sort of describes his life too.

But OJ has done more criminal stuff than has MJ. And the same cannot be said of OJ's life.

IMO.

[auntiesiannan.livejournal.com]

How many children didn't come forward?

[caitlin.livejournal.com]

I acknowledge your point. And it is perfectly valid. (but it also seems to me that you're happy he died or somesuch. if I am mistaken, do correct me.)

But it seems you are not acknowledging mine. That there is no comparison between OJ and MJ... really.

[caitlin.livejournal.com]

Although given the numbers that came out after the Catholic priest molestation thing, I would have thought more would have come out to accuse MJ too... really.

[auntiesiannan.livejournal.com]

I'm not happy he died yesterday. I wish he had died before his music career took a dive and he got accused of messing around with children.

I always figured he'd take a powder eventually, I'm just sorry it took this long.

Yes, his music was good. But I never owned any of it because he's one of those people that always gave me a Bad Feeling. Call that prejudice, if you will, but I have fairly good instincts about that kind of shit...comes from experience, sadly.

[auntiesiannan.livejournal.com]

The Catholic church's coffers are far deeper than the Neverland fortune. That's the cynic in me speaking.

[auntiesiannan.livejournal.com]

SELF-PROCLAIMED King of Pop. he came up with that himself and had his publicists put it in every release, along with suggestions that all media outlets refer to him as same.

You never heard of Aretha insisting on being called the Queen of Soul.

[caitlin.livejournal.com]

Well of course they are.

Not to mention all the stealing by the Vatican... (not going to get into a cynic contest with you or anything... just noting I share it)

[shutter.livejournal.com]

so if the weird 40 year old man down the street from you starting hosting sleepovers for the local elementary school boys, you wouldn't bat an eye?

[caitlin.livejournal.com]

Not saying I wouldn't bat an eye... but I wouldn't accuse him of child molestation right off.

[auntiesiannan.livejournal.com]

...I really, really don't want to think that anyone, especially you, is that HOPELESSLY NAIVE.

[gynocide.livejournal.com]

WOW. Do you have children?

[caitlin.livejournal.com]

No, I don't have kids.

Then again, likely if you saw ME on the street, you probably wouldn't want any of YOUR kids hanging out with me either.

[auntiesiannan.livejournal.com]

Yabbut, she didn't come up with it first!

[gynocide.livejournal.com]

Actually, I have no idea what you look like or what you're about. I'm trying to find out before I rip you a new asshole about being naive.

For your reference, I look like this:



That's my friend's kid. I don't have children of my own. But I am a rape survivor. And I used to be a prison guard and dealt with sexual predators. I'm not goddamned Clarice Starling or any shit, but I'm kinda interested in your views.

[caitlin.livejournal.com]

I'm kinda interested in your views.

Why? No one else seems to be. And I'm not just talking here. I'm talking in general.

I'm a child abuse survivor myself. Nothing sexual from my parents, but I can't say the same for former... acquaintances.

Why you would rip me apart for being naieve is beyond me.

Then again, I've had my judgment questioned constantly and all my life, and told I don't know anything, so why the F&(*(* this should be any different...

The reason I'm not ENTIRELY sure I believe MJ to be a child molester is because the impression he gives me, even now, is of being a lost child himself.

If you want to rip me a new asshole for that, then you're doing what everyone else in my life has already done and invalidated my feelings and opinions on things, so I guess I ought to be used to it, right?

[caitlin.livejournal.com]

Technically, neither did he.

The Media was calling him that before he started to call himself that.

Unless I'm remembering wrong, and with me, that is always a possibility. (I'm wrong about most things after all... hell, I'm practically wrong about everything, so, why not this too?)

[gynocide.livejournal.com]

My problem with people like Michael Jackson and Kobe Bryant has more to do with how we worship celebrities in this culture. They do very little work for a ridiculous amount of money and some of them do whatever they want to others.

I don't know you personally or your life experience, so like I said, I was trying to find out before saying WHAT THE FUCK ARE YOU SMOKING?!

If people are dicks to you that sucks. I wouldn't walk around with my tail between my legs over it though.

[caitlin.livejournal.com]

I wouldn't walk around with my tail between my legs over it though.

And how many times have you had YOUR trust violated every time you really thought you could trust someone?

Personally, I've had enough of that for at least this lifetime.

[gynocide.livejournal.com]

Lots. But if I let it get me down they win.

[caitlin.livejournal.com]

So when was the first time you heard that you were worthless?

I think that started age 3 for me. From my parents.

Then it was "you're worthless except for your grades which aren't that good anyway"... same source.

Then being treated BY AN ENTIRE SCHOOL like you had some nasty disease... and that people you had thought were friends were "gathering information" so that the bullies could bully worse.

yes, okay, I have issues.

"If I let it get me down they win" you say?

who just threatened to rip me a new asshole?

[gynocide.livejournal.com]

I wasn't threatening. I have had a tendency to go off on people though without knowing where they're coming from. Didn't say I was perfect or 100% healthy, but I work on it.

I have a family member that implies on a daily basis that I'm an idiot. That's her dysfunction more than it is mine.

[auntiesiannan.livejournal.com]

I thought it was Alan Freed who came up with that title for her? i could be wrong.

[auntiesiannan.livejournal.com]

No, he came up with it (or his team did) and issued detailed press releases with instructions that in all news items he should be referred to as KoP.

[bullandterrier.livejournal.com]

The reason I'm not ENTIRELY sure I believe MJ to be a child molester is because the impression he gives me, even now, is of being a lost child himself.

i agree with this actually. it's still weird as fuck to me that he's had little kids in his bed and all that shit but i don't believe he's capable of attempting anything sexual with anyone or anything. he is so incredibly regressed. well.. was..

[auntiesiannan.livejournal.com]

Regressed doesn't mean asexual.

He struck me as someone who could only relate on any level to children, and that includes sexually. He had the money to buy anything he wanted, including complicity.

[nullcherri.livejournal.com]

well I wasn't really speaking in my eyes either I WAS SORT OF GENERALIZING FOR THE PUBLIC

[auntiesiannan.livejournal.com]

OH WELL CONGRATS ON BEING ELECTED PUBLIC RELATIONS DIRECTOR FOR THE WORLD THEN

GO PAINT ME SOME ANTHRO FRUIT

[auntiesiannan.livejournal.com]

And for some reason I always confuse him with Murray the K and Cousin Bru(HOOOOOOOOO)cie.

[shutter.livejournal.com]

i read that mj left the beatles catalogue to paul mccartney in his will.

[auntiesiannan.livejournal.com]

I remember when Cousin BruHOOOOOOcie was on Babylon 5 and it just felt so wrong, man. SO WRONG. He should only be broadcasting from inside a tiled bathroom.